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G' day to all veterans. Yeah, the "MUST not", should have been "does not necessarily belong to any federation". Will correct that, thanks Johnny.

As for the distances: I supposed the majority of older skaters prefer longer distances, so I mixed in a TT, a sprint and 2 long races... But we can agree on whatever races we like the most. As for the quantity of races: the more skaters signed in the less races we can do, of course. So counting on about 150 skaters in total, at 4 events for each category + 2 open races for everyone, we filled more or less the allotted 2 or 3 days.

By the way: end of october, the 2nd South American Masters Champs take place near Santiago de Chile, just got the confirmation. It's a similar tournament: 3 days of competition, various distances, expected 100 skaters from the area.

Hey Lars! Ok, the bitumen is fine in most of the track, with a couple of rough spots and a bit ruined in one corner, but I got a half-promise already from the local government that in case an international event is held there, they will resurface at least the couple of bad spots. The elevation also is fine: slight uphill and downhill in places, but barely noticeable. As soon as I collect data with my Garmin, will post it here. No problem with the old tires on the sides: they're there, but NOT attached to the bitumen. We can move away those considered unsafe, eventually.

As for the other questions... haven't you read the previous posts? Or did you get lost with Lamerz' bullshit? A marathon here is extremely difficult to organize, unless we have a LARGE number of skaters. Otherwise they'll not close roads just for a hundred punters or so (just asked). What can be done instead is to conceive a closed road circuit of about 400 to 600 metres per lap (maybe 1k max), so a full marathon is not a really good idea. And I did NOT forget relays, in fact I mentioned them more than once in this thread. They should be "open" category races, outside the proper championship, unless we want to have them per country too (but that would be difficult, as not many countries will have 3 or more skaters, while others might have too many). Mixed with gals is my favourite, definitely: I'm a great pusher

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Johnny's 500m 2 man "match sprint" is a good idea, time permitting.... The intensity and excitement is amazing. Need to crunch the time needed for this type event, as only 2 on the track at a time. I vouch for the 500 pursue.
Last week of november might be too late for some Northern Europeans, they might already be either out of inline training mode or already into ice (or the winter getting fat and lazy mode...Mid october, good timing for fitness, but maybe still too far in the season... unless we move forward with Marcello's concept that its not nessessarily for the normal FIRS / CERS (masters) skaters... but the numbers of masters needs to be around 150, so doing everything possible to ensure the most people want to participate, means the calander is important. Yup, IMHO we better move around off season. There is no point in competing with other events. If this one works OK, next one could be in april, for instance.

On the same note - a survey of masters skaters would tell quickly the majaority opinion of the flavor of the event - if more masters would prefer a "serious" style or more masters would prefer a "party" style championships. Why should one deny the other?

1. Saying "accordance with CIC rules means there will be officials enforcing same ... We can add "except for judges" on the sentence.
2. Marathon might be too long for circuit size (and a nightmare to tabulate - what to do w lapped skaters? ) Half marathon might be better, think so
3. ...I vote for starting at 40. 10 year groupings makes easier to tabulate as well. I'm not 40 yet, so I vote from 35
4. Quota - good idea in principle. Limiting a countries participants in an individual race, might be better based on percentages of the total signed up for an individual race. Then, who gets to choose? I propose to put that back onto a countries skaters - to decide who gets to race. Sure, but only in case there are too many...
5. Experience. A bit touchy here. I suggest that "a skater who has competed in speed world championships within the last 10 years (or whatever) be excluded OK
I wouldn't prevent a skater racing who has a current license fro m their individual federation, Of course, that was bad writing on my part
6.. Winners - should be some kind of overall winner for a distance grouping (like sprint meister = 200m 500m 1000m. etc - but should also recognise a races winner even if never another podium. hey, we're OLD - maybe we can only shoot one bullet! Good idea
7. Prizes. I vote "NO PRIZES/CASH/MERCHANDISE" awards for placements, only "trophies, medals, jerseys, certificates". Who ever mentioned prizes/cash/mercahndise?
8 Anti doping should be in line with current WADA rules, all doping control should be in no particular order. Realistically there won't be any testing - who's gonna pay the 300Euro fee per testing sample anaylized? A couple of doctors here owe me a favour or two...
9. There should be some type of official, not Marcello, or there might be fisticuffs (since we would have to settle things ourselves!) Good point
9. Location and venue - since a cart track seems to be ok with most, alternative location with good weather and not too expensive to get too (maybe for second year of event) could be Singapore - they have had successful Asian Inline Cup races on similar track. Tracks like this are found worldwide. I like that