More wheels equal more roll. The body¡¯s weight is distributed over more bearings and more wheels makes the ride smoother with less vibrations allowing a higher top end speed.
Uses: Downhill skating.
Purpose: Higher top end speeds.







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Alexander Bont |
Bont 7 wheel concept frame |
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This is a 7 wheel Bont downhill concept. The wheels are just over half the normal thickness of a regular wheel. The 4 wheels go to the inside and 3 wheels to the outside of the frame.
More wheels equal more roll. The body¡¯s weight is distributed over more bearings and more wheels makes the ride smoother with less vibrations allowing a higher top end speed. Uses: Downhill skating. Purpose: Higher top end speeds. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() alx |
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Violet Soo |
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wow~! Awesome concept!!
Bont is always thinking something new and unique!! |
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JimW53186 |
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Where does the boot mount, given that the wheels all seem to come up through the frame? Or do concept frames not attach to boots?
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alvin alcova |
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Such wheels arrangement may be prone to road "crap" getting in between the wheels and in worst cases, may cause a really good 360 degrees tumble, especially going downhill. Ouch!
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Alexander Bont |
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Hi Jim,
![]() The mounting points are small and hard to see. The lateral adjustment would need to be built into the boot. alx |
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PHANTOM the outsider |
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They'ed look great with my boots on them. PHANTOM the outsider |
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Rainis69 |
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are those 100mm wheels? how long is this frame going to be?
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Schago |
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nice idea. but maybe with some weaknesses:
the wheels are, compared to the "normal" shape, very thin at the top and in courves they get heavily stressed. i figure they deform a bit and then they maybe touch the other wheels. another issue is the grip. if you do a courve with the common downhill setups, you have totally 10 wheels on the floor. with this setup, you have, especially on the inner foot, only 3 wheels, so you got much less grip. |
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JimW53186 |
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Wheel size must be 120mm, no itty bitty 100mm wheels for top end downhill. How long, I don't know and don't care; I don't crossover downhill.
3 wheels on the ground? Do you do downhill on one foot? I count 14 wheels; the aforementioned deformation will keep them there unless you pronate badly. Or if you boot out, but then, game's over anyway. |
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Rainis69 |
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I think 120 mm and + would make the skate too high! I suppose 110 would be enough!!
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cheerio395 |
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those are not even inline skates, the wheel footprints are staggered. but, it seems like i good idea. i like to see some people think in this buisness.
Daniel McCalpin Precision Inline |
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madroller2 |
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This is something like 88 mm,like 3 mounting block like a lot of other Bont "invention",like some future whell......good to see on paper,impossible to use on race because doesn't work.To all skaters: Use your money in better ways.
Bye. Mattia |
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bill begg |
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Hi Mattia,
You surfaced again, well one thing you are certainly wrong about, is the 3 mounting block boot. It does work, it has proven it has in race conditions. I will reply, but such a ridiculous statement as yours abusing Bont, should be removed by the board moderator. Bill Begg |
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Rainis69 |
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madroller2,
I don't know how 3 mounting block boot works, but I suppose, you haven't tried them too. and I don't know how this new concept frame will work on downhill races, but I am pretty sure you haven't raced on them also. So don't say that these inventions won't work in races if you haven't tried them! Then the 5x88 frame. If you say, that 5x88 doesn't work, then I suppose you have the same opinion about 5x90 frames, because they are very similar. I would advise you to read carefully some topics, here in bont's board or somewhere else - what are these frames for! They are for big strong skaters, with a big, strong push (like me)! And I don't understand, why you think 88 aren't good for races? For me it is the best wheel-frame combination possible. So I'm pretty sure your statement about Bont's inventions is nonsense!!! |
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madroller2 |
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This is the opinion of Davide Tacchini,the president of IIDA (internetional inline downhill association) about your frame,post in the www.italianskating.com forum (new tecnologies-tecnologie a confronto, in italian)
"Mi dispiace essere sempre un po' distruttivo..ma, da quel poco che c'è mscritto sul forum Bont indicato nel Link, mi pare un'idea che difficilmente avrà sviluppi di applicazione pratuica, men che meno agonistica. Bisogna però considerare che fino a quando gli americani continueranno a chiamare gare di downhill dei rettilinei di.5 o al max .6 miglia al 5-9% di pedenza in cui buttarsi come pecore in quattro o cinque alla volta, anche un carrello a 18 ruote potrebbe andare bene. Viene chiaramente indicato come l'obiettivo di questo prodotto sia higher top end speed, per cui, anche se il pattino non curva, pesa come un'incudine e per montare il frame sulla scarpa bisogna trasformare quest'ultima in un gruviera, poco importa.. ciaaaaaaaaaao Davide " Translate from italian into english..."I'm sorry to be always a bit negative..but, from those little that there is writen on the forum Bont indicated in the Link, an idea seems to me that difficultly it will have developments of practice application, neither for professional skaters. It must consider that until when the Americans continue to call downhill some rectilinear ones of 5 or 6 t miles to the 5-9% steep in which throwing itself like sheep in four or five to the time, also a frame of 18 wheels could go well. It is written that the objective of this product is higher top end speed, for which, even if the skate doesn't turn , it weight like a anvil and in order to mount the frame on the shoe you must transform this last one in a gruviera chees, desn't matter.Bye Davide" So,dear Bont,thanks for your effort in studyng speed skating,but after spent my money I wait to see some athlets go on podium with your frame.... For Rainis69: What is your best time in skating marathons?Do you really believe that 88mm is the best combination possible?Good for you because it is clear for everybody that 4x100 is the best.Also Botero in 2004 (when he was in Bont international)use 4x100 (Belotti frame)in ST Moritz,and during 2004 Bont international use 5x88 but in 2005 choose 4x100....that was introduced by FILA...these are not opinion but fact. Bye Mattia |
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Alexander Bont |
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The purpose of concept frames are to stimulate the thought process in the same way car companies create concept cars. They may be ridiculous, and they may or may not work.
The 7 wheel concept is not for downhill racing with turns. It is for downhill maximum speed. alx |
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inlina |
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Quote: And to stimulate positive discussion in the public arena on a brand....and even sometimes create a distraction from what the company or someone else in the industry is doing (see Holden Efigy vs. Ford BF release @ Sydney this year!) CG |
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Rainis69 |
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madroller2,
maybe 4x100 is better for botero, but not for me, because I can't skate with such a short frame. I brake my personal records with 5x88 not 4x100 (not opinion, but fact), so you can't say 4x100 is better than 5x88, because it's not. They are equally good, just different. |
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Rainis69 |
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and even if most skaters feel, like they are going faster with 4x100, why don't you blame inventors who invented 5x80, 5x82, 5x84 and 5,90???
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madroller2 |
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For Alex: Downhill most famous race (world cup of downhill)are with a lot of turns and wins the athlets that is able to turn at high speed and maka effective brake before the turn....sorry for you but doesn't exist race in wich wins the one with higher top end speed.
For Rainis 69: What is your time in marathons? I don't blame inventors of 5x80,5x84 ectcc because these are frame of the past years,I'm not agree if in this time (actually)you use a frame that it is not the fastest...4x100mm. |
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Alexander Bont |
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madroller, it is just an idea. We have no intention of making this frame. It was not designed for any downhill race, just downhill speed. It is just a drawing.
alx |
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